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Digital Immortality

1st Part of Digital Immortality - Jacob Hansén
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2nd Part of Digital Immortality - Susanna Oderhall
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3rd Part of Digital Immortality - Michael Arenander
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Part 1 - Jacob Hansén

Immortality. It is a concept which has intrigued mankind throughout history, and many would argue that escaping the eventual death we all face is a most desirable wish. In myths and stories immortality comes from magic properties of objects, such as the Holy Grail. But in our modern society, science has made such advancements that we might just be able to create our own magical beverage-container.

 

Welcome to the Science podcast here at KG. Today’s topic is mind transfer. Mind transfer is a hypothetical process in which a human brain is scanned and copied unto a computational device. If possible, a human mind could survive beyond the lifetime of the human body and perhaps attain immortality.  The idea is that the computational device could run a simulation of brain activity in such a way that it responds to impulses just like the brain it was based on (http://www.sim.me.uk/neural/JournalArticles/Bamford2012IJMC.pdf). Brain activity is a result of a neural network in which neurons transmit information from one to another using chemicals known as neurotransmitters. Exactly how human consciousness and learning occurs is not established and so whether mind transfer is possible or not is sometimes a dividing question for scientists. Those who believe that the human consciousness is purely a product of physical and electrochemical processes also hypothesize that it is possible for computers to achieve consciousness in the same way, given that the technology is available. Note that a computational device with a brain as a fundament is different from artificial intelligence, since mind transfer also retains a sense of historical identity that the human brain had accumulated during its “human life” so to speak.

 

Before we go on to discuss the actual methods of transferring brains onto computational devices, it is necessary to consider the effects of this hypothetical technology. Computer-based intelligence is predicted to process information much faster than a biological human if their intelligence level was the same. Thus, apart from allowing humans to consciously live beyond their normal lifetime, mind transfer could provide additional, faster, brainpower to our society (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=4599202374830957934). Of course, depending on to what extent a transfer is successful, that is to what extent human consciousness is preserved in the computational device, legal rights for such a human mind would have to be drawn up. Obviously, this poses a problem of how, or even if, we differentiate between computer simulated human minds and biological humans. It is also necessary to consider how a human mind confined to a computer would perceive itself and what it would be inclined to do or not do. Skeptics fear that emulations of human minds, if they turn out to be faster than biological humans, would eventually try to overthrow biological humans. Such scenarios need to be considered continuously along research developments of the brain, computer software capable of simulating brain activity, and the subsequent area of actual mind transfer.

 

Now I am going to pass the word on to Susanna, who has investigated how a mind transfer would occur.

Part 2 - Susanna Oderhall

Mind-uploading is a process of creating immortal minds, that even could function after our death. Many claim that this is theoretically impossible, but the sciences have gone far, and maybe in the future this process could be plausible.

 

Our brain is a complex structure, the center of the nervous system, that basically is the control station of the whole body that holds all the information needed to live. The key to mind-uploading is to be able to store the information that makes us us, such as behaviours and our habits, tastes, memories etc.This information is stored in the patterns of connection between our neurons. Our brain is alone made up of about 100 billion neurons. They have the ability to gather and transmit electrochemical signals throughout the brain. These neural connections are individually called synapses, and collectively known as connectome.

 

The issues of transferring the mind to a computerized device is to transition the connectome into a state where it will be safe from decay and still be intact. Scientists have worked with different methods that could be plausible, the main two are:

 

  • The method of discontinuous copy: Involves the scanning of all the synapses and mirroring the brain’s cells to a brain emulator machine. (The machine actually conducting the scanning of the mind). By freezing the brain activity and letting the brain emulator to create an identical copy of it. This process can be compared to the making of clones. However the process is built on that you will not live to see your “copied” brain.

 

  • The method of gradual replacement: Which is a process that gradually replaces the brain cells. It is made without disturbing the synapses. It is meant to keep our consciousness completely intact in the new brain. This method actually allows us to be alive to see the “copied” version of our brain.

 

The main problem with the mind-uploading is to test if the new brain is actually you. This we could never really know. But the way to create digital immortality has became not as impossible as we might have thought.

 

Sources:

"Synapse." Britannica School. Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc., 2016. Web. 27 May. 2016. <http://school.eb.co.uk/levels/advanced/article/70736>.

 

Craig Freudenrich, Ph.D. & Robynne Boyd "How Your Brain Works" 6 June 2001.

HowStuffWorks.com. <http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/inside-the-mind/human-brain/brain.htm> 27 May 2016


“The Neuroscience of Immortality”. New York Times, 12 Sep 2015, Retrieved on 27 May 2016 at http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/03/us/13immortality-explainer.html

Part 3 - Michael Arenander

There seem to be a wide range of different ways to scan and copy an individual’s brain activity as well as many methods which could be used to replace one’s own brain with a digital one made from a computer. The entire field of mind transfer and Whole Brain Emulation has been discussed and speculated for decades, and many scientists within the field give a very positive response regarding the development of digital immortality. Famous and iconic people within the field such as Ray Kurzweil, Dimitri Itskov and Roger Penrose are all very positive towards the development toward reaching this possibility of digital immortality. According to them, the possibility to copy your mind will be a reality within 50 years give or take. This is partly why for example Google’s Ray Kurzweil is actively taking medicines and has adopted a lifestyle which may extend his life to some degree, just so that he can live long enough to be able to transfer his mind and thereby achieve a digital immortality.

 

Despite the positive attitude which these famous scientists have, critics say that their opinions are rather optimistic. There are more parameters involved in the process of developing mind transfer and whole brain emulation which may likely delay the possibility of achieving digital immortality. Many of the issues are philosophical, but I’ll leave them be for now and focus on the real objective ones instead. One major factor in this case is the computation power which has been exponentially increasing over almost a century. It is estimated that a human brain can perform about one quadrillion calculations per second! That’s a one followed by fifteen zeros! However, even the world’s fastest computer which was ever built together, the Blue Gene/Q could only simulate about three neurons in real time when it came to calculating the behaviour of each neuron’s many molecules. Although, simplifications have been developed in order to predict and calculate molecular behaviour. However, using one of the most powerful brain simulation algorithms through a software called NEURON, the Blue Gene/Q was only able to simulate a bit over 23 000 neurons in real time, which is far from the 100 billion neurons a human has.


Even though the actual computation power is far from being able to simulate a human brain, even when using simplified algorithms, the fact remains that we won’t know how much the introduction of quantum mechanics may bring to this field of science. Computation power might therefore run into a huge development leap rather soon, but the problems won’t stop there. The second material issue which brain stimulation must solve is rather crucial for any kind of brain simulation and transfer to run correctly. We do know a lot about brains and their molecules and function, but according to the makers of the NEURON software and many other scientists in the cognitive science field, there are over hundreds of hormones which still haven’t been found and mapped. This lack of data means that all articles regarding brain stimulation which you might find on news sites about how fast certain computers can simulate a human brain, are lacking a lot of parameters which might play a significant role in the resultant speed and precision of the simulation. It’s even highly possible that some of these scientists which test simulations remove many of these molecules just to make it to the headlines in some article. The fact therefore remains that the world as it is today, is too young to predict and claim that some of our fictional ideas will become a reality, especially in regards of how soon many of the predictions say that digital immortality will be possible. Ray Kurzweil stands loyal to his word that 2045 will be a year when he can escape death, and perhaps that will be the case, but there is just no way to prove that all issues will be solved by then.

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